Comedy & Chaos: Navigating the Vetaverse

Welcome to 2025 with Burso, Sam Wride & Jarryd Goundrey

The boys are back with the first podcast of 2025, kicking off the year with absolute chaos. Burso, Sam Wride, and Jarryd Goundrey dive into everything from medieval combat to the realities of being an online content creator and comedian. This episode is packed with unfiltered banter, deep dives into niche interests, and some unexpectedly insightful moments.

What's in This Ep:

1. The Worst Intro in Podcast History

• Sam kicks things off with an absolutely shambolic start, and Burso calls it out immediately.
• A sidetrack into Danny Zuko impressions and live-streaming chaos.

2. Vetaverse, The Veteran’s Avengers?

• Jarryd talks about building the Vetaverse, a community for veterans.
• Nick Fury comparisons and Thanos-level back injuries.

3. Warhammer, Dungeons & Dragons, and Other Nerdy Pursuits

• Sam confesses his love for D&D and Warhammer.
• Burso and Jarryd question if D&D is actually cool or just “closet nerd” material.
• A deep-dive into the autism market of train set collectors.

4. The Reality of Being a Content Creator & Comedian

• Jarryd reflects on growing his following from 12K to 30K and how engagement matters more than numbers.
• The ups and downs of social media, burnout, and weirdos in the DMs.
• Stand-up comedy horror stories, including bombing in front of exhausted firefighters post-bushfires.

5. Forces Entertainment: Overseas Gigs & Military Comedy

• Jarryd lands a dream gig performing for troops overseas.
• The challenges of getting clearance, military secrecy, and avoiding potential cancellations.
• Tales of musicians trying to smuggle weed into the UAE.

6. The Wildest Tangents Ever

• What it would actually be like to be a medieval knight in a real battle.
• A deep dive into whether jesters were highly paid entertainers or just medieval hype men.
• Random discussions about Osama Bin Laden’s lawyer also defending P. Diddy (fact-check?).

7. Comedy, Growth, and the Future

• Jarryd’s plans for Adelaide Fringe, Melbourne Comedy Festival, and eventually heading to America.
• The financial reality of scaling up in comedy ($40K for a special?!).
• The art of making scripted comedy feel natural and improvising with the audience.
• The best (and worst) heckles Jarryd has faced, including being fat-shamed by an even fatter audience member.

Final Takeaways:

• Follow your passion, whether it's comedy, content creation, or medieval combat.
• Don’t get blood drunk unless you’re ready to face the consequences.
• If you ever find yours

Black/Dark Humour is confronting for some people. It is however, how Veterans and First Responders try and shine some light on otherwise dark and hard to discuss topics. The topics and the way they are spoken about, don't actually show the real feelings of such events that occured. 

Matty Morris of https://www.zerolimitspodcast.com/ helps us out with a banger of a tune. If you want to hear about some real intense moments from Veterans and First Responders. Check out Zero Limits Podcast. 

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Chapters

• 0:00 Episode Introduction
• 8:12 Introducing Danny Zuko
• 14:29 Live Streaming Commentary
• 33:37 Coupon Codes and Discounts
• 1:22:14 Meeting Jared Goundry
• 2:12:13 The Vetaverse Concept
• 6:34:45 The Challenges of Stand
• 11:09:17 The Importance of Authenticity

Transcript

Burso: 0:23

I feel like it's starting yeah.

Sam Wride: 0:30

Danny Zuko.

Burso: 0:31

What's that

Sam Wride: 0:32

you got Danny Zuko with his sunnies on

Burso: 0:35

This is the worst intro.

Burso: 0:36

I like that. Sam's just live streaming Jared's getting himself some snacks. Welcome to 2025. We're a first podcast for this year. I'm aware that I'm near on month three. Oh, hang on, You've got something to do. Well done, Sam Wride. Welcome.

Sam Wride: 0:52

Thank you so much

Burso: 0:53

. He's done it. He's done the first savvy break.

Sam Wride: 0:56

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Burso: 0:57

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Burso: 1:00

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Sam Wride: 1:01

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Burso: 1:04

I think the way it works is like it was pretty pricey, but I got 17% off and you're like wow, what a bargain. Well, it's an affiliate thing.

Sam Wride: 1:10

So like I get yeah, but 17 is like why not 20 or-?

Burso: 1:13

I think it's a back end thing, because he uses a program that doesn't

Sam Wride: 1:16

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Burso: 1:20

No, Don't worry about the dodgy deal. Yeah, don't worry about the issue. Don't worry about the delicious taste.

Sam Wride: 1:26

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Burso: 1:33

Yeah, I mean you might have brought it back. It sounded very much like you just read it off a can, but, to be fair, that sounds like you're actually drinking it. Then that's good enough. It was nice.

Sam Wride: 1:42

It's good, which is fantastic yeah.

Burso: 1:44

Well, I should probably introduce who's here. We've got Jared Goundrey. Oh shit, I just did the intro music. Hang on, I've got to do the clapping one. There we go, which isn't working for you guys either, because none of you have headphones on. You'll have to listen to it when it happens. Post-production.

Sam Wride: 1:58

You look like fucking Stevie Wonder. I know why has he got his white glasses on inside keyboard in front of him. You're getting footage. You're getting footage.

Burso: 2:05

I've got a single glass. I mean I could just use a camera, You're right, but I'm not.

Sam Wride: 2:08

Very superstitious. That's what I'm getting. You're like a white Stevie Wonder, stevie Wonder's black. No, I'm kidding, that's what he said. Yeah, he wouldn't have known, would he?

Burso: 2:18

but no one cares about Sam today, because it's going to be all about Jared. Yeah, the funny man I care about. Don't be like that. No, not today.

Sam Wride: 2:29

Not today.

Burso: 2:30

Now my goggles are fogging up because it's too hot. I've got one photo That'll do me so. Anyway, 2025, we're here, everyone's getting back together again and Jared's trying to start up the Vetaverse, which is very exciting times. The Vetaverse yeah, did we coin that? I think you did.

Jarryd Goundrey: 2:49

Did I coin that? Yeah, the Vetaverse Veterans United Like the Avengers. If everyone was actually a hero. Yes, you had a white card for joining. Yeah, I did. We'd like to fight Thanos, but me back. I can't lift over 25 kilos.

Burso: 3:05

Yeah, DVA's telling us yeah, you can't, can't assemble anymore. Yeah, dva's telling us, yeah, you can't assemble anymore, boys. What else have we got? Chris May called me Nick Fury, the Nick Fury of the Vetaverse. I think that just means because I'm a cameo that just hides around in the background and leeches off other people's successes, so that story to check out, Mind you he didn't turn up today either.

Sam Wride: 3:25

Who would I be?

Burso: 3:26

I think you'd be like Tony Stark, because you'd be like the OG. I thought it'd be like the guy with the bow and arrow, you know like the gay one.

Sam Wride: 3:31

Oh, hawkeye, hawkeye, yeah, yeah, but everyone likes him, did he?

Burso: 3:41

get his own movie. He doesn't have any abilities. He's good with a bow. No, it's a weird AI. Well, a gay AI.

Sam Wride: 3:46

Actually in the comics he actually is gay.

Burso: 3:50

Really no joke, he actually is. Yeah, Are you a?

Sam Wride: 3:52

bit of a superhero. No, I made that up. Everyone believed it for a second.

Burso: 4:00

Well, you're mad for Warhammer, so we assumed you'd be all about comics and other stuff as well.

Sam Wride: 4:04

Warhammer's so awesome. I just got into playing Dungeons Dragons.

Burso: 4:07

Gay, yeah, is it gay.

Sam Wride: 4:08

No Dungeons and Dragons is sick.

Burso: 4:09

Isn't it sick?

Sam Wride: 4:10

It's so good. D&d is really cool. A friend of mine, like maybe two months ago, was like hey, need another player right.

Burso: 4:14

Yeah, yeah.

Sam Wride: 4:15

And I'm like I'm not fucking like a loser. And then he's like come on, do it.

Burso: 4:23

D&d is sick. D&d actually is sick, it's so sick.

Sam Wride: 4:25

So then, had the second game on Sunday. Eight hours went in a blink of an eye.

Burso: 4:30

My back was sweaty, knees weak. It was so good my spaghetti. Is it a spectator sport? Why isn't it on you? It could actually be, it wouldn't be fun for you.

Sam Wride: 4:38

You've got to play, you've got to get immersed into it. You've got to have. I feel like more people are doing it than they lead on. Oh yeah, nerd is now the new cool, because jocks are now shunned. Well, I didn't know this group of people would.

Burso: 4:51

You're just doing a reel with the shortest shorts I've ever seen on Flexing your Quads. I never said I was cool.

Sam Wride: 4:55

I never said I was cool, these guys I was playing with, I didn't know they were. It was like closet D&D guys.

Burso: 5:05

they had like a trench coat and they were like yeah, that's how I feel like Epstein's Island works too.

Sam Wride: 5:11

Check out my D20 dice.

Burso: 5:12

I know what that is now.

Sam Wride: 5:13

What yeah D20,? Man Roll the D20.

Burso: 5:16

Why do I feel like a loser all of a sudden? You are the fucking nerd here.

Sam Wride: 5:22

This is so upsetting. Good fun, because Some guy has to obviously be in charge of the narrative.

Burso: 5:26

This sounds very much like a swingers game.

Sam Wride: 5:28

Yeah, do they use the same venue. Less rooting. Yeah, there's not as much rooting as you could all do Like, way less.

Burso: 5:33

Yeah, but there's chips. Same venues, different vibe A lot of chips and salsa.

Sam Wride: 5:37

Heaps of salsa Is there. Yeah, yeah, no dancing Chips, just chips, yeah into a D&D podcast.

Burso: 5:42

Sorry, everyone out there that's like To be fair look, it's 2025. I don't even know what we're doing. Back to an episode of Dungeons and Dickheads. We are back.

Sam Wride: 5:54

Well, you roll the dice and we judge you. So if anyone wants to play, I'm looking for friends.

Burso: 5:57

I am yeah, yeah, sure, there's a huge D&D community in the To get dressed in your game.

Sam Wride: 6:08

You Warhammer? Oh yeah, big time Poor Hammer, that's what I've heard it being called.

Burso: 6:11

Because it costs a lot of money. It does cost a lot of money. How much are you dropping on? How much have you dropped on Warhammer I?

Sam Wride: 6:15

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Burso: 6:21

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Sam Wride: 6:24

Is there like a code or something? They just add 21% off, always.

Burso: 6:29

So that's the price. It's not 21% off.

Sam Wride: 6:30

Well off Games Workshop products, so off Warhammer itself. It's 21% off. Stop smashing your elbow on the table, Can you hear it?

Burso: 6:36

Yeah, get rid of the table. Is it from fucking Teemu?

Sam Wride: 6:41

His table's from Teemu it's like four apart.

Burso: 6:44

Anyway, go back to your discount that you don't get a discount off because it's just the price.

Sam Wride: 6:47

Anyway, gab Games, check it out online 21% off of Warhammer. How much time are you spending per week Warhammering Like I'm talking painting, I'm talking thinking about it. I've been painting a while because I've been away fighting, but usually you need a good five hours to get anything done in Warhammer playing or painting. So, good five-hour blocks and there hasn't been a lot of it, but usually maybe 10 hours a week, maybe on Warhammer. I watched some dude on TikTok paint Warhammer, this fucking podcast.

Burso: 7:15

Yeah, yeah, we're going to interview Jared about what he was doing. So, warhammer, what do you think? I watch a guy.

Sam Wride: 7:26

I like content and I like how anyone can be famous on content for anything.

Burso: 7:27

This guy who just paints Warhammer figurines. I watch a bit of that.

Sam Wride: 7:29

Is it Dave's mini gaming? Is it Dave?

Burso: 7:31

No idea what his name is.

Sam Wride: 7:32

There's another guy that makes Dungeons and Dragons tables and another guy that makes train sets. Which train sets? They can drop a lot of money on train sets. Oh, trains are awful. Yeah, the autism market's huge.

Burso: 7:42

Oh, I remember that dude where he just used to watch a train go past and he had it on his GoPro on his head.

Sam Wride: 7:47

He's a millionaire, he's a millionaire, you know statistically, there would have been some people in World War II with autism, so there would have been a bunch of people heading off to the Holocaust like this is fucking sick, Just watching a tank go past. Like there's this guy at the train station.

Burso: 8:04

Just watch the tank go past.

Sam Wride: 8:04

You know it's really ideal. That's actually a 7.62 machine gun man, yeah yeah, you know how many spirals it does.

Burso: 8:10

Yeah, yeah, like see that round that just landed right next to me.

Sam Wride: 8:15

That would have done 4,574 spirals before it got there, yeah, yeah, before it hit the ground and it's hurting my mate's skull, yeah yeah. Wow, okay, wow, medical World War II documentaries, like the people who suffer from anorexia. They came out of the concentration camps Like how are you feeling? They're like fat. Yeah, they're body shaming themselves.

Burso: 8:37

I've got the. Put them ready to go now. I forgot Jared was a comedian. Sorry guys, I had a little bit of sugar, don't you have it? It's like the zero sugar. That's a Pepsi Max. What do you call them, zazzy boys? Zazzy boys have a Zez.

Sam Wride: 8:48

And a Zez for anyone that wants. Is there any non-sugar drink? You can call it a Zez. So like hey, can you please get me a Coke? Zez, that's a Coke.

Burso: 8:55

Yeah right, Sounds silly now, but it'll grow on you.

Sam Wride: 9:03

It's good. Now I'm figuring out how to tell other people about it.

Burso: 9:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone's actually pumping Zez's right now. What's that? This is the cheap version of that. No, it's a Savvy.

Sam Wride: 9:12

It's a Savvy. Is there any sugar in a Savvy?

Burso: 9:15

Zero, there must be some.

Sam Wride: 9:18

There's six calories in there. There's got to be something in it. Oh, there's zero sugar, though.

Burso: 9:22

So Savvy is a Z. It's where all the mushrooms and stuff that he puts in it are. Look at your face.

Sam Wride: 9:27

You're like oh, hang on mushrooms, wait what the walls are melting. Best served chilled. I didn't realize it was chilled like that. That's why it's best served. Ignore that.

Burso: 9:37

Move on, somebody will pay for that.

Sam Wride: 9:38

Is this the first podcast of the year?

Burso: 9:45

It is, and it's a fucking rock show. Oh, so everything I said about the Holocaust and anorexia Holocaust will stay in. Yeah, sweet Clip that.

Sam Wride: 9:53

That's actually a good name for my comedy festival show next year Jared Goundry, Anorexia, Holocaust, Body shaming the. Holocaust On the poster. It's just me in blackface.

Burso: 10:04

Which is not funny.

Sam Wride: 10:04

People will come to watch. That'll sell tickets.

Burso: 10:07

And then I'll go there and I'll mention it Not at all, as he's fucking, he goes on the reel, he goes. Oh, you know, I don't want you to cancel this.

Sam Wride: 10:12

Holocaust, anorexia, blackface. I think people might Watch the reel, though I'm not sure if anyone Will get onto this. Oh damn.

Burso: 10:21

He's not wrong, though he's not wrong.

Sam Wride: 10:22

Yeah, I've got way more followers Than him, so it's alright.

Burso: 10:26

So the.

Sam Wride: 10:27

So when was the last podcast?

Burso: 10:29

It was Well, it's actually Christmas.

Sam Wride: 10:31

What's the big plan 2025? Late Donuts this isn't about me.

Burso: 10:36

Why is this about me? I literally just got guests here. It's always about us. Yeah, come on. It is because people care about you, literally, I've got four followers.

Sam Wride: 10:41

What do you want to know about you?

Burso: 10:43

I'm just like just chilling as a podcast.

Sam Wride: 10:45

How much do you make On the podcast A year before tax? I can help you out with that pan-panned situation.

Burso: 10:52

Look to be fair, we are still getting like 10 listens a day, which-.

Sam Wride: 10:55

That's pretty good man. Why is it? I don't know what the metrics are.

Burso: 10:58

Yeah, that's real fun, especially for one that's done nothing for three months.

Sam Wride: 11:01

Yeah, that's actually really impressive.

Burso: 11:03

That We'll have 14,000 listens, which is 14,000 hours. You'd think we would have made like four bucks, but I don't really know how the podcast world works.

Sam Wride: 11:10

But you know More than me. I hope the people start using that discount code SAVVY17% off.

Burso: 11:15

It's the imposter. It's the imposter. This is why I was using it. They're just typing the random words that we say.

Sam Wride: 11:20

We've got better focus. It's natural energy.

Burso: 11:23

When six calories is a natural and organic ingredient, it's actually really nice. Sam Ryan. I'll get him to put a photo up on his page and he'll get more things. He'll get his own code and I'll go out of business.

Sam Wride: 11:34

How did you get into I don't know anything about this how did you get into doing medieval fighting? Oh, shit is going on to me. I told you.

Burso: 11:41

I'm interested, yeah.

Sam Wride: 11:53

I haven't had an interview turned around like this since. I was sorry, it's all about me. Everyone bring it in. Uh, smoke me if you got them. I um, that was his line on the last one, just so you're aware. If, uh, I saw a video on youtube of these two guys beating the absolute shit out of each other in, like well, not two people, but like a group, like a group fighting. I was like this can't be real. Kept looking at it. I was like this is sick, looked up, uh, australian medieval combat, whatever. And they're sick. At the time I was doing my geospatial intelligence course in Holdsworthy. Okay, I was like yeah, I'm in Holdsworthy at the moment, you know, working in Holdsworthy.

Sam Wride: 12:13

They're like yeah there's a guy that is on the army base there. If you can get near the army base, we can call him. I was like well, I'm on the army base. His name was Shirley, room on base, because he's, you know, living on base, because he does night fighting and warhammer obviously so yeah, if there was zero money, yeah, yeah.

Burso: 12:30

So he lives on base. If he could get into those bunkers over on an sma.

Sam Wride: 12:33

Yeah, yeah, living in them so I went to his, I went to his room and then he started fighting there and now I'm it's what I do for essentially a living. So lovely how much you sort of dropped and need to drop to get in nothing really you, just because you do most of your training in soft armor and like it's judo drills, like out of armor, like you're only really in armor once a week and when you start off you don't get into armor until you're fit enough and safe enough damn anyone can do it.

Sam Wride: 12:58

What? How would you go? Let's say time machine comes along, wood, picks you up, drops you like I don't know, middle of the war of the roses, like how do you?

Burso: 13:05

how do I fare?

Sam Wride: 13:05

yeah, how do you go? I reckon I would fucking destroy someone. But but you gotta remember I don't do any thrusting. I mean there's no stabbing in my sport, so someone could easily just you know. But I did do olympic fencing. It was state national level in fencing, really, yeah, yeah, I'm a wep, um no, so I reckon, um with my techniques.

Sam Wride: 13:26

In all my fighting I've done it since I was like five I would destroy. But then once again you're not versing one-on-one combat. It's like peasants with pitchforks and they'll just mob you and stab you in the neck yeah, yeah, yeah but one-on-one combat, like I reckon I could be, would you be like a man-at-arms. Yeah, I think I would be like a noble birth. It'd be like I've been a few nights taking their armor.

Burso: 13:46

I'm not very noble.

Sam Wride: 13:47

Yeah, I've killed some knights with their armor. I've taken it on I go to like a noble lord. Oh yeah, I'll bash these bandits for you if you give me some gold coins. Was that a job perspective?

Burso: 13:57

back in the day. It's like a bounty hunter, essentially.

Sam Wride: 14:02

Yeah, they'd go around, played any video game ever yes, there's bandits in the woods.

Burso: 14:06

I'm like I'm in.

Sam Wride: 14:07

I think I'd be the band. Actually, you think I would be the guy that plays the loot yeah, it goes from place to place and like yeah, what's the news?

Burso: 14:13

and they're like there was a band that's on the room I don't think you'd be a jester, I reckon you could poison that dude from um the witcher okay that dude that runs around, that dude from the witcher like not the actual Witcher, the dude who, like, plays the band all the time. He's good value. Well, I think there's a I'm still going to your Witcher.

Sam Wride: 14:31

It's a good song. Yeah, yeah, there's a. I've looked up a few jesters from history and stuff because I think that would have to be my job equivalent. Yeah, put it over. You get high paid and like other kings and lords would nick your jester, right, so you would go. So, like long story short, I'm having a party, so I'm like, right, I'll get all the good stuff. I'll get the best sort of like jelly castle mold. I'll get like a feast I'll have like the clowniest jester jared from yes yeah, yeah.

Sam Wride: 14:58

so like you gotta see this guy. He's from norway and they're like whoa, um. So then like if you're sitting there and you're like a bit, you've got like a bit of an ego, then you go back to your castle and you're like I fucking want him. Yeah, the kids loved him. He hasn't spoken to anyone since I was blowing animals, so you get poached by, like the other place.

Burso: 15:13

And you're like I've got to go, Give me seven chickens and I'm in. I'm fucking in. Even I wonder if that yeah, do you? Did you say yeah, he was in the?

Sam Wride: 15:29

crusade back in the day. Pretty funny on the ships but didn't get it A bit of a larrikin, some people are for killing, some people are to keep the morale up. Yes, he was more of a larrikin Viking, because not all Vikings would have been killers, some would have just been. They're supposed to be, yeah, but statistically it would have been like any military force ever. That's a lot of pressure there, that's a lot of pressure.

Burso: 15:43

There'd be a lot of lingers, there'd be a sack of shit.

Sam Wride: 15:45

I've got an arrow in my neck so I can't actually do this raid. Yeah, that's a real linger move.

Burso: 15:49

You're like I can actually see the arrow. Yeah, don't you need like two inches mate.

Sam Wride: 15:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah, palsy yeah.

Burso: 15:55

Palsy Went straight through.

Sam Wride: 16:04

It's a made Earl, but you know I did me knee. Did you know that saying in?

Burso: 16:10

Skyrim, where they're like I took a knee, I was going to go berserkers. I'm actually doing a selection for berserkers.

Sam Wride: 16:18

Yeah, I'm microdosing at the moment. Actually, they didn't want me, but I was too aggressive. I was too berserk oh it was rubbish, though they're all on TRT. Those boys, they're all mushies?

Burso: 16:27

Yeah, they would be, wouldn't they Actually, didn't they actually do that?

Sam Wride: 16:30

That's why they were berserkers because they'd take like psilocybin mushrooms and just and fight naked. Yeah, Absolutely. People would come back like 20 years later and they'd be like did you hear? They did war crimes. They'd edit bow shots into the. They were shooting peasants with their bows from that tree, so that's what they were doing.

Burso: 16:54

I had to see that I was written in some stones.

Sam Wride: 16:55

I saw I don't know about that and the guy running had no evidence. Yeah, I read it in the runes. It's rubbish. I always think when you sack a city, right that obviously the gates go down and it's like two days of mayhem, right, yeah, so everyone's getting drunk. It's stereo and the post nut clarity, oh jeez, because you know when you blow after you blow a low this thing you go.

Burso: 17:22

Oh my god, like you, just get that ugly, or he was, yeah, well, after when you're stacking the city.

Sam Wride: 17:26

You'd blow and then you go. Oh my, it's half a body Like you'd get the most craziest. There'd be some sheepish people in the morning. Yeah, blood drunk though, so maybe it'd take a few days though Blood drunk. That's what they call it. Who calls it that? Everyone, the same people that call them Zezis.

Burso: 17:43

Sorry mate, can I get a blood zizzy?

Sam Wride: 17:45

thanks. It's a thing they call blood drunk where they'd go even in World War II they had it where they would go through these murder villages in Vietnam. They did as well Blood drunk, and they say they call it having a blood drunk. Where they just drunk off the blood of just killing people and they did everything.

Burso: 17:59

Not even going to fact check it, I'll just take it for gospel if that's fair, your blood drunk levels are like Like 0.05.

Sam Wride: 18:13

I actually got that information from the ABC. It'd be pretty hard not to get involved, Just chucking it out there. You'd be left out for sure If you said no to some rating.

Burso: 18:19

They'd be like if you're the loser on the boat, like where's all your loot.

Sam Wride: 18:23

You're like I didn't want to take your fuck off. He's not coming next time.

Burso: 18:27

Imagine you didn't leave as well, like you'd be like I didn't want to take your fuck off. Yeah, he's not coming next time. Imagine you didn't leave as well, like you'd be like I'm gonna sit back here because all the ladies back at home you're like, the lingers be like killing it, but the ladies be like yeah, I don't want you, that's like my mate josh always says you know, there's hunter gatherer.

Sam Wride: 18:37

But he's like yeah, dude, if I was a berry picker I gotta pick berries all day. You know it, they're all dead. Oh virtue signaling back in the bushes.

Burso: 18:49

White nights back in the town I got no scars.

Sam Wride: 18:51

I'm fucking, I'm picking berries and these hot chicks. It is Sitting back here being like look, if Ragnar doesn't come home and you need someone to talk to.

Burso: 18:59

Yeah, yeah, I'm here. Yeah, exactly, but you'd be friend zoned. You'd probably call it berry zone back there.

Sam Wride: 19:05

Yeah, he peed a lot of strawberries. You'd be amazed if some girl then fucking six foot three Bjorn, comes back covered in scars and blood with like six slaves and then woman's just like hell, yeah, down the fuck and you'd just be in the friend zone in the corner.

Burso: 19:20

Yeah, they'd be like I'm going to get some blood drunk now.

Sam Wride: 19:22

Yeah, yeah, dang. Any time of the month, any time of the month, any time of the month, blood drunk. Are you sure you're not going to edit any of this?

Burso: 19:33

I don't even know what I'm going to do with this. To be honest, it's literally just supposed to be a friendly catch-up. I see where everyone's at. Wait this is not.

Sam Wride: 19:40

This is how we're recording it. Yeah, we've been recording for far too long. This is how we talk. Yeah, that's how I talk.

Burso: 19:45

Yeah, can we actually speak about Jared? Yeah, what do you want to know? Is that a thing I tried? I know.

Sam Wride: 19:51

Sorry, I was blood drunk.

Burso: 19:53

This made it real 100% not your fault this time, Sam.

Sam Wride: 19:56

Thank you. At no point am I holding you accountable for this, thank you.

Burso: 20:00

You've done bulk traveling and stuff since.

Sam Wride: 20:02

It's been pretty much full on. I've been living with, no, I've been living homeless for 18 months. Yeah, getting over that a little bit.

Burso: 20:11

Last time we had you, you were at 12,000. Now you're at 30. 12,000 what?

Sam Wride: 20:15

Followers yeah, now I'm at 30, yeah, yeah, yeah, social media has changed a little bit, like I think. Like 10 years ago the algorithms changed. Ten years ago, however many followers you had, mattered more. Let's say, I got 30,000 followers and then tomorrow I go right, I'm a knitting channel, and then I start knitting for two years and no one's watching my videos. Technically, you could still be like, hey, you've got 30,000 followers for a knitting channel. I'm like, yeah, but the engagement's not there. So that's not really the metric I kind of look at. I look at a three-monthly sort of like engagement and be like are more people watching than the last three months, and it's been steadily on the increase for like about a year. So it's good, people are enjoying it.

Burso: 21:03

Have you got any secrets you can talk about, like Mandatory Fun Day and stuff? Are you trying to link up with him?

Sam Wride: 21:07

I've talked to Austin from mandatory fun day on Signal Signal. Yeah, he's a Signal guy Encrypted.

Burso: 21:13

Yeah, why do you look so surprised that a bloke who works in like psyops or whatever it is is on Signal? I didn't think I've been out of that world for a while.

Sam Wride: 21:21

I'm heading overseas. Soon I a country Deployment. I'm heading off to forces entertainment. Are you actually In May? Is it a sandy country or is it a snowy country? Oh it's, it depends what time of year. It is Jeez easy, easy tops.

Burso: 21:36

Off sec, man off sec, you know.

Sam Wride: 21:37

Well, that's why I said the sandy and snowy. Well, that doesn't.

Burso: 21:47

Mate, we'll stop this podcast afterwards. Sam, Ask your questions afterwards. I want to know.

Sam Wride: 21:51

He won't tell me. Anyway, this is why we did the video, I'd say, which is a huge bucket list. When I said, I thought that was never going to happen. But the fact that the guy and it was an interesting story because a guy who works for Forces Entertainment messaged me on Instagram and he goes, mate, I'm just going to ask you one last time. If you don't want to go, it's fine and I'm like I've got no idea what you're talking about.

Burso: 22:16

He's like I've been emailing you for like six months and I'm like what email have you got? He showed me the email. He had one letter wrong.

Sam Wride: 22:21

And um. So yeah, it did like a little faux induction or whatever, and um got to get all your, all your shots. But it's like being back on an army trip because I'm like, hey, when are we going? And they're like not really sure yet.

Burso: 22:33

And I'm like in my mind but hurry up.

Sam Wride: 22:36

In my mind. I'm like just you're not there until you're on the plane. It's just like another fucking deployment and they don't know what's going on.

Burso: 22:48

And he's like yeah, just getting, do they give you body armour and stuff to wear? Yeah, Shivers.

Sam Wride: 22:53

Do you get a gat, I'll acquire Blood drunk.

Burso: 23:00

Two of the forces are similar to the Russians. One of them gets a gat, the other one gets five rounds. Yeah, bullets, and then one's really cool. Thank you, that's really cool.

Sam Wride: 23:10

Once again, I'm not holding my breath until it happens Like, politically, a lot of things can change in the world all the time. They might just be like we don't have these bases around anymore, Like the US could just change their mind at any particular time. It's a coalition thing actually.

Burso: 23:25

We had Limo he came across. Yeah, he came across. Yeah, he came across with Timor. It's funny. I just like just sort of tried to slip into his DMs in LinkedIn answer me. I was like this is weird. Oh, that's lovely, limo's a top. Like yeah, so I'm trying to, because he was in the chopper and stuff when we were flying around Timor and he was like, oh, I wish I had some footage of that and I'm like I'll, you can make it a little real of his little adventures over there.

Sam Wride: 23:49

But yeah, that was cool Talking to one of the guys that runs Forces Entertainment. He's like I met up with him in a pub in Newcastle actually because I was like hey, I'm actually in this town. He's like I live here, so let's just go catch up then. And he was kind of telling me some behind the scenes stories of like musicians and stuff that will get into country and they'll be like mate, I've got like this bag of like what are you doing? Cunt like, and he's like essentially doing like kind of throwing stuff out, just being like what are you doing? You're literally in the uae with like a bag of weed like you can't be here, man.

Burso: 24:21

So like the kind of because musos are fucking crazy.

Sam Wride: 24:24

Yeah, they don't think more than three months ahead yeah, no plus they wouldn't even register that this is terrible.

Burso: 24:30

Like I'm Australian, I'm always an Australian in Australia. I'm exempt from other people's laws, aren't?

Sam Wride: 24:36

I yeah, yeah, yeah.

Burso: 24:37

I play guitar. I don't want your money from me.

Sam Wride: 24:39

I was, like I drink sugar-free drinks, like I'll be fine, Like I'm going to smug it on. You Think I'm going to ask Smash Zizzy?

Burso: 24:43

Zez.

Sam Wride: 24:45

So I'm really looking forward to that and it's not. I mean, it kind of feels nice to get some sort of like official recognition of some sort, but it's trying not to fuck it up. I guess, how crazy are you going to go?

Burso: 24:59

You're going to go like you're going to go, yep, you're going to go, super like non-PC.

Sam Wride: 25:03

No, yeah, absolutely, oh yeah you got it for the team over there they need that. Yeah, that, yeah, I think you got to get in on the, on the um, the inside knowledge, yeah, and just really rip apart their hierarchy and all that sort of stuff, please shred them.

Sam Wride: 25:15

Um, the good thing is that he was like, let's say, we'll be away for like 10 days. He's like, yeah, because they're going with bands and stuff and they're like they need a day of like equipment travel, they need a day of rehearsals, they need and then the day of the thing for each one and I'm like, yeah, I just rock up and talk like yeah, so I can just walk around the, the bases or whatever and be like what's going on boys, like what do you fucking know?

Burso: 25:36

so you're probably also very unlikely to be cancelled because there's not going to be overly too many people filming. Well, no one's going to film it really exactly.

Sam Wride: 25:42

Yeah, true, you should um, get the highest ranking officer you can on stage right like just before we can. We have the this who ceo everything out and just have him on there the whole time and just don't talk to him. Just so you've controlled him the whole time and just have him there. He's like, yeah, just in a second I'll get to you.

Burso: 25:56

And then just do not talk to them at all. The chief of the Taliban. Did I tell you I'm going with the Taliban?

Sam Wride: 26:00

Gigs are gig boys.

Burso: 26:04

They're mad for jokes, those boys. Oh, I love a good joke. Yeah, yeah, all that observational humour.

Sam Wride: 26:10

What's the deal with rooting goats? Oh, it's true.

Burso: 26:13

To be fair, they all looked very happy and thought they were laughing as soon as the US pulled out last time.

Sam Wride: 26:17

Yeah, yeah, they loved it. Well, they won didn't they?

Burso: 26:20

Yeah, they had a bunch of lols.

Sam Wride: 26:22

I would too have had trillions of dollars worth of equipment just given to me. I like they sold it off to raise money for more goats, or whatever it was I do.

Burso: 26:33

I can ask you about um having an online following. Do you get weirdos in your dms? Oh yeah, it's the best. Hey, it's, it's bizarre.

Sam Wride: 26:36

I also get because I obviously do a combat sport people telling me how to fight oh good, yeah, nice, okay oh you know, back in the day you wouldn't actually be very good. I was like, oh, is that because you were back? What are you talking?

Burso: 26:46

yeah armchair historians yeah, yeah, they're the best wicked. I never even thought about that.

Sam Wride: 26:50

That's great, like you know you're actually not a knight. I was like I've never said I was never. Is that a real thing, yeah they're like you're not, actually not as like sick dude, I don't, I don't reply. And then people just get real abusive about everyone I hang out with. So, yeah, yeah, cool, you got divorced. Huh, she was way hotter than your missus. Now I was like what the really yeah. That's hilarious Samantha gets pumped.

Burso: 27:10

I'll bet she does.

Sam Wride: 27:12

She does. That's hilarious.

Burso: 27:14

I'm the bad guy. Now Back to Joe. Back to Joe. He's a man deflector.

Sam Wride: 27:19

I get probably three groups. I get like 16-year-old dudes that are like mate, I'm back and going to Kapoka in like four months. What should I take with me? And I'm like golf clubs, mate, golf clubs. You're going to need them and also you want to do some exercise because they don't train you very well.

Burso: 27:33

Yeah, true, don't worry about the fitness test. Yeah, also, if you can sneak in a knife or a little Jim Beam bottle, always beneficial.

Sam Wride: 27:41

Old boomers will send me like before they have any comment. So, let's say they want to be like mate. I think you're quite funny. Yeah, I'll first be, like I served in yeah, boom, yeah, linkedin fucking bio of their service you know. And then I went to anogra like just yeah, yeah over and over again, and I'm like I was there.

Sam Wride: 28:00

Yeah, totally right, and uh, it's good, it's losing its fun. Being online like this is probably something you can relate like you can't use it any much anymore. Yeah, like I used to sit back and scroll, but I guess, because I work on there, the line between working and relaxing yeah, you can't. Yeah, it's just too much like I, I I try not to scroll. Like I don't like scrolling because it's just like I'm always on my bloody phone, I'm editing, I'm finding or I'm checking out the fighters. It's just if I'm not working on my phone now I just I get to, I guess, agitated, I'm like what am I?

Sam Wride: 28:33

doing Like I'll throw my phone down, like I could have been doing something else more productive.

Burso: 28:37

Cause you're like dressing up as cops and that's fun as time just flies, which is a good thing about life.

Sam Wride: 28:45

It's not. It's very different now, cause everyone's like it would be so good to be an influencer. I'm not saying I'm an influencer, but it's kind of like work. Yeah, everything turns into like what the army turns shooting not fun, that's what 100%.

Burso: 28:57

Yeah, totally Like mechanics when they have a car that they want to do art, they're like no, I'm done.

Sam Wride: 29:02

I do mechanic stuff all day, every day.

Burso: 29:04

I'm good thanks.

Sam Wride: 29:04

Yeah.

Burso: 29:12

I don rip myself off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this needs new tires. Wait, no, it doesn't. Yeah, I need to need to change the water in the tires. Wait what? Yeah, new oil in the headlamps.

Sam Wride: 29:17

I had 10 days uh, 10 days off social media over christmas. So I deleted all the apps and stuff yeah and um just had like a useless phone and it was interesting. For like the first two days my thumb kept going like for like a muscle memory. I'd be like it would just little thing like someone's talking to you.

Sam Wride: 29:34

You know, when you're sitting down then your friend goes to the toilet, then you're like boom, you're on your phone you still do that and then you're like, oh, there's nothing there, yeah, and you've your thumb like has a little freak out and stuff, and it probably took me two or three days to before it translated into my brain that it wasn't there, and then it was peaceful, peaceful as yeah. I just logged onto a desktop once a day in the morning to make sure I'm not mid-cancel or someone's. Yeah, a lot of people with their business sort of inquiries through Instagram and stuff. So I was making sure I'm not missing out on.

Burso: 30:02

If you missed your own cancellation you'd be pretty upset.

Sam Wride: 30:04

You'd just come back, I'd be shattering.

Burso: 30:06

Yeah, only the last three days anyway. So if you took 10 days off, you'd be cancelled. You'd come back.

Sam Wride: 30:09

Why the fuck, have I got twice as many followers? Yeah, yeah, that's what's gonna happen when you upload this new one. Well, I said I, you know kevin bloody wilson, yeah, I opened for him in perth and um, talking to him back, also funny as, just as as funny as you get, and he goes, mate, I fucking love it when people cancel, because every every timerise will be like cancel culture, this cancel culture, that they fucking dust me off and put me on the telly and I do one last tour and I'm like done one last tour for 10 years in a row and I've never been richer.

Burso: 30:45

I'm just like good on you, bro. I wanted to retire, but Sunrise keeps telling me to come back. Exactly right.

Sam Wride: 30:53

Everyone always reckons it's the last time you can see him because he's a bit of an old generation, but there's still an appetite for it.

Burso: 30:59

So you've got Fringe Festival coming up Adelaide. Oh yeah, huge man. Yeah, how big is this crowd?

Sam Wride: 31:06

There'll be 160 people there.

Burso: 31:07

And that's the biggest.

Sam Wride: 31:08

That'll be the biggest. Yeah, 160 people there and that's the biggest. That'd be the biggest yeah, so it's finally, and at that amount of people, that's when the finances start working out. That's not bad.

Burso: 31:18

What? Five years in Eight, Eight years in Eight years in? Definitely a good return. Yeah, totally, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm in COVID. I mean, there was a COVID, yeah, there was a COVID. Don't forget about COVID.

Sam Wride: 31:30

I did go full-time for the first time in COVID and then lost my life savings.

Burso: 31:34

I love that story. What happens? Too proud to live in his car for two years.

Sam Wride: 31:39

I was still in there every now and then.

Burso: 31:40

But now it's a war story.

Sam Wride: 31:43

You don't even know what it's like. He put in the claims Soul dysfunction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like jammed in the car for two years. Yeah, what's that? Say again, hey.

Burso: 31:52

Kind of you have that ringing.

Sam Wride: 31:53

That's good. It's good to get back around again. I was in Townsville last year as well. That was cool. That was probably the first time I've ever like felt like anyone knew who I was.

Sam Wride: 32:03

Yeah, Like we walk around Townsville, people were like boy self-conscious I was like I was at stockland shopping center, like like hey, g'day guy, I was talking to you guys before this, before the podcast, but I see people when they meet me, they're like just beef say something funny and I'm like dude, that's like three hours of writing and we edited it down into 40 seconds and that's the highlights of my life. And I just see people be like this guy's boring. When I first met you here doing real, I was like I'm way funnier than this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're funnier than this dude.

Burso: 32:31

Yeah, I've just got the autistic background to be like. I know how this video works.

Sam Wride: 32:36

And you know what. I'm okay with that and it's been nice to get the success and to not care.

Burso: 32:45

Couldn't give a shit Like.

Sam Wride: 32:47

I enjoy that people like the stuff, but I don't feel like it's got anything to do with me too much.

Burso: 32:52

Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah.

Sam Wride: 32:54

I feel really separated from it.

Burso: 32:56

We shot a movie where we were extras together.

Sam Wride: 32:59

Yeah.

Burso: 33:00

And it was funny because, look, jared would be there and people go, hey, are you that? And he just looks at you and goes, shut the fuck up. I'm like, yeah, yeah, no, he's that dude, that's him, that's him, he's the dude, you're the worst, you're the worst Every time you do.

Sam Wride: 33:15

Who this is? I'm like fuck.

Burso: 33:17

We were at the baseball the other day and every time we walked past I was just like Do you even know who this is and they're like no Because, no, because 300 is like A very small percentage Of people.

Sam Wride: 33:26

But that the thing about having niche fame and like niche niche, yeah right, is that? Do you know what? No one knows who you are? Yeah, at all, and it's kind of the best way to have it. I was listening to a podcast with jimmy carr recently and he said in the future, more people will be famous to less people yeah because, in the 80s, there was like 50 people in the world.

Sam Wride: 33:48

You knew, yeah, and everyone knew them. And to get on telly, there was like a whole team of people broadcasting it around the world. You knew, yeah, and everyone knew them. Yeah, and to get on telly, there was like a whole team of people broadcasting it around the world. Now it's like you've got a phone, like someone could be like I love that person. They play Minecraft, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's actually a good way, like, yeah, some amount of people know me, but not really enough to change my life. Whatsoever, yeah, whatsoever.

Burso: 34:07

Yeah, like Mr Beast could still walk into places and people that have no idea who he was.

Sam Wride: 34:10

Think so.

Burso: 34:11

He's at like crazy level, but like, if, like, if you went down to the local RSL you might get one or two people.

Sam Wride: 34:16

There's only a handful of people with danger fame. Like I was thinking about this the other day, like after talking to Maddie cause he did a Taylor Swift's security who?

Burso: 34:32

Mad. Okay, would you like to talk about that Maybe?

Sam Wride: 34:33

Anyway, anyway, lucky no one listens to this podcast, but you know like they're having like decoy vehicles and things and different routes and planning this operation, and I was thinking about it. I'm like, yeah, if Taylor Swift walks down the street with no one around, like no security, no, nothing, she probably dies. Yeah, people would swarm her, people would swarm her. Tay-tay would get pumped. Yeah, like someone's like, I want a bit of her hair.

Burso: 34:57

And then someone's like I'm getting blood drunk.

Sam Wride: 34:58

Yeah, they're getting blood drunk Right. Then all of a sudden it's like well, you're getting a hair, I'm getting an arm. And then it's Mogadishu fucking 1993 all right, they'll tear her apart.

Burso: 35:07

100 yeah, I got um recognized in australia once at office works yeah I went in for a click and collect yeah, that's because your face was up on the wall saying this guy stole stuff last time he was in I went in there for a click and collect.

Sam Wride: 35:20

You know how if you do a click and collect, you gotta give him two hours notice or wait for an email to come back to get your order where it is. I went in there like I ordered it and then five minutes later I went down there and the guy was like. I was like oh, can I get this click and collect? I was supposed to wait two hours, but like I did it five minutes ago, he's like no, you can't. And then this other kid goes oh, you're that night fighting dude. I was like. I was like shit, yep, that's me. And she goes. And he said yes, it does.

Sam Wride: 35:48

So he went out, got my click and collect done. So that's the most thing that's ever happened to me, which is Officeworks. My favorite one in Wollongong last year. Two cops pulled up. I'm walking home with like a backpack, like just by myself, and they just pull up and I go, oh no, and they go. Do you make reels?

Sam Wride: 36:08

And I go yeah boy, and then I go who you got in the back and they're like, and then they want, I want to keep talking about it, like, oh wait, we can't keep talking about it. But this is. I got this message before just passing along a message from the lady at my local guitar shop. She said she saw you open for Jim Jefferies last year in Melbourne and said you were the funniest person on the night. Jim Jefferies Didn't open for Jim Jefferies.

Sam Wride: 36:28

Saw that I was going to say Jim Jefferies is massive dude. When you have brown hair and you're a white man, you could be anyone I like that I was going to say that's massive. I didn't open for Jim Jefferies.

Burso: 36:39

I did open for Jim Jefferies, just not at Melbourne.

Sam Wride: 36:42

Jim Jefferies, best famous guy backstage.

Burso: 36:45

Yeah In a yeah, he's funny as that's hilarious. He is fucking funny.

Sam Wride: 36:48

Most comedians are kind of nerdy. Oh yeah Like no, they're not really that funny. And if you get them in that hour before they go on stage, they mainly just pace around. Yeah, because they'd be thinking right Thinking holy fuck, especially if it's like a big gig. No-transcript.

Burso: 37:18

Jim's been fucking smacking me. Just walks out and he's like oh 30. Yeah, 30 years. Like you get footy players and stuff, like some of them just like, don't talk to me beforehand.

Sam Wride: 37:24

Again. Yeah, Same in Boohoo.

Burso: 37:25

You'd just like pacing back and forth.

Sam Wride: 37:27

Yeah, I don't like talking about before we fight.

Burso: 37:30

There's other blokes that are just like let's just keep it light and chill Like I'm not here to stress out and stuff. Yeah, especially when you've literally got to memorize like an hour show.

Sam Wride: 37:39

Oh yeah, Totally, man. That's the thing. So it's actually nicer now that the venues are getting bigger.

Burso: 37:47

Yeah.

Sam Wride: 37:47

Because then you can get your own space. Because then you can get your own space? Oh yeah, Because in the past I do like 30, 40 seaters, so people walk in and I'm there.

Burso: 37:54

Oh yeah, we went to see you in Geelong. He's literally talking to everyone out the front.

Sam Wride: 37:57

Yeah, I'm like thanks for coming.

Burso: 37:58

Yeah, and then he actually introduced us. He's like, yeah, yeah, come and grab a seat.

Sam Wride: 38:02

It's his own show. Yeah, yeah, because I would totally do it in armour.

Burso: 38:13

And then the person you did have Was giving you, like giving you shit. The whole time she was like Well, she was shredding you before. Jarrod's like I've got another, like 10 people, coming. She's like I don't care, we've got to get the next person on after this.

Sam Wride: 38:23

Oh yeah, not good enough, let's show beers, baby.

Burso: 38:26

Oh my god, ruthless that was good, because then jerry gave a shit for the whole show.

Sam Wride: 38:29

She was a older white bitty boomer at least, at least now, when it's bigger, you can sit at the back and just be like fuck yeah, I gotta go walk in front of this, I gotta be the only person in a room facing a different direction for a little bit. And because it's pretty intimidating. Oh, 100, it's very intimidating and it's like if you don't start well, you're just gonna die. So it's all just like what's the worst show you've done? And you're just like I am not hitting this. Oh, best one mate, I'll fucking tell you. So, 2020 january, like we thought we had a bad with covid was just around the corner, but we did this outback tour and it was like the bushfires that just happened or were happening, and we were going from place to place and then like three places we're gonna go to burnt, burnt down. And then we were like Don't laugh, we were getting paid by the gig too.

Burso: 39:15

So we were like um, and we can't be like hey guys, you still got a place. Can we have our money back? It should have been your back.

Sam Wride: 39:27

Not my fault, you built a town in the middle of a bloody bushfire and bless her, she had a good heart. But the publicans were like, yeah, we'll still have you, it'd be good for everyone to have a laugh. And we're like, thank God, we need some money. Yeah, yeah, but like no one had told the firefighters, so they were just like busting their ass for days on end. They were in wreck, yeah, and someone was just like all right, everyone get into the town hall, there's a comedy show. And they were like nah, man, I'm going to bed. And it was like full, 100 people, 120, 130 people covered in like soot. Yeah, you know. I was like cool blackface is back. You know what I mean? Yeah, I didn't know this was allowed, though.

Sam Wride: 40:06

And three comedians 20 minutes each. Boom, boom, boom. We Um three comedians 20 minutes each, boom, boom, boom. We just fucking bombed to like a thousand yard stairs. These guys were just like scraping koalas off the road for like days on end and they were just shattered. It was the first time they'd stopped and they like we're just almost falling asleep and, uh, we were bombing. But, like also you, we were all sitting there being like, well, it's not that bad, because we're still those people like, oh what, your comedy show didn't go that well. Yeah, it's like. Yeah, oh, you bombed, but we just get scraping, yeah, shit off the road and seeing people's house burned 100.

Sam Wride: 40:38

I did 20 minutes and time is subjective to how well you're doing yeah like, if you're crushing like 20 minutes, it's just like yeah yeah, like time doesn't have any like meaning at all, but if you're bombing were, were you sweating? How bad? Were you sweating? More than the firefighters?

Burso: 40:53

Yeah, they had it easy. I was like is it hot? I was like it is hot in here, right yeah.

Sam Wride: 40:59

Yeah, just dripping off my nose and just dying and bombing. And that was the worst bomb ever. But yeah, besides, like probably my first couple, when you first start, you're just like you don't have any material. Yeah, oh. So when you start off, do you just rock up on the stage and be like I'm just going to make these people laugh?

Burso: 41:15

The people like all six of them.

Sam Wride: 41:16

Yeah, yeah, that you just turn the greyhounds off so they can watch comedy. Yeah, because there's like there's stand-up comedy and then there's open mic and then there's the bottom scene, which is how you break through, and that's honestly harder. That was the hardest two years in the last two years, like just getting out of the getting a thousand open mic comedians into like a hundred. That can maybe make it yeah, yeah, yeah is way harder than where I am now, which is just trying to scale your business yeah yeah, um, because it's just this dirty scene.

Sam Wride: 41:46

There's a piece of paper, um, you write your name down and it's just first in first serve four minutes a night and you just gotta kind of and the audience hates you too most of the time they're there to see you bomb.

Sam Wride: 41:57

Yeah, they hate you. Well, I've got a great idea. How about, um, we get uh jared in to do a boo hurt fight for, I don't know, maybe four rounds or like 30 minutes of fighting and I'll do a stand-up show. Oh, I feel sorry for you, bro. Yeah, yeah, I'll do. Hey, you gotta fight six foot men in armor.

Burso: 42:15

Emotionally, you'll do the same thing yeah, yeah, but he just falls over and they leave him alone no, they won't.

Sam Wride: 42:20

They'll pick him up and I'll fight him, but um, we could do that as a little challenge yeah I mean, how bad could it be for you? I mean, yeah yeah, like I'm probably. Yeah, I'm probably gonna get more than you, but I reckon you have a good time in armour. Yeah, I reckon you have a good time. I have a fantasy of being a knight. When I was a kid, I always wanted to be a knight.

Burso: 42:37

Sam's not a knight. Yeah Well, I realised when.

Sam Wride: 42:40

I was a kid.

Burso: 42:40

I just thought anyone could be a knight but then I got older I'm like, oh, you have to be like an entertainer or a ped. You know what I mean Both ideally.

Sam Wride: 42:50

We can come down to Team Crackham and everyone if you're in Melbourne.

Burso: 42:52

Why is that? Because they're entertainers or pedophiles.

Sam Wride: 42:56

Well, we'll see. Pens are successful, you get.

Burso: 43:01

Shit.

Sam Wride: 43:02

The island's closed now, isn't it?

Burso: 43:04

Have they closed that island down Like everyone went to the island Epstein? Island it's under new management.

Sam Wride: 43:08

I'm not sure what the infrastructure's doing. Epstein Island is under new management. I'm not sure what the infrastructure is doing. Yeah, I thought you were talking about Tenarion. Wow, surely whoever bought Epstein's Island would have got it at a bargain.

Burso: 43:17

Oh yeah, wouldn't they, they're like sorry who was the last owner? Yeah, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it Legally? We don't have to say yeah, but you also do have to deal with WorkS.

Sam Wride: 43:27

There's been some complaints oh yeah, why are all these people having a go at us?

Burso: 43:30

yeah, yeah, true, why we got such bad press out here. It's weird.

Sam Wride: 43:34

I'll buy it, but can you get fucking Bill Clinton out of here? If you were to do, I have to keep the tenants yeah you've got to keep whatever happened to you 10 years prior it'd be bittersweet getting an invite right because they're like. We've chosen you to join the pedophilia ring.

Burso: 43:49

Is that how it works? Was it selection?

Sam Wride: 43:51

Well, I don't know, but like you have to be ultra successful, right? So obviously you've been working your entire life, you've made all the sacrifices. You've missed birthdays and Christmases. And then they're like hey, do you want to be in a pedophile ring? A little part of you is like we, these people, really trust me.

Burso: 44:09

Well, look at Diddy's mates. Oh Diddy.

Sam Wride: 44:13

Didn't he get off or something Did?

Burso: 44:15

he, he got off heaps of times, yeah, that was the issue Over and over again he had the same lawyer as the bloody guy from 9-11.

Sam Wride: 44:24

From 9-11?. Yeah, he got all those guys off. That's why it's not a terrorist attack anymore because the lawyer choked.

Burso: 44:30

It's like the truth came out. Wait, did the?

Sam Wride: 44:32

guys from 9-11 get off. Yeah, yeah.

Burso: 44:34

Who? The guys in 9-11? They're all actually walking for it.

Sam Wride: 44:38

The guy that was defending Al-Qaeda was the same lawyer for P Diddy.

Burso: 44:43

Oh, get the fuck that guy a job. I don't know if that's true.

Sam Wride: 44:45

What a resume I honestly think that is true.

Burso: 44:47

I'm Googling it. That's a fax out of sand.

Sam Wride: 44:50

Imagine raiding a cave in Afghanistan and finding 60 bottles of baby oil.

Burso: 44:56

I'm going to Google PJ's now. Mad lighting set up in a Bieber album.

Sam Wride: 45:00

Lawyer. Yeah, I was going to say you made that up?

Burso: 45:02

No, why do you come out with random facts that actually you're like? I just made that up.

Sam Wride: 45:06

I did that.

Burso: 45:13

This could be right. Do you want thinking music? Yeah, so after the festival the Fringe Festival then you've got a bunch of other ones. Is there another big gig coming up Melbourne Comedy Festival you're doing as well. Melbourne Comedy Festival will be five nights.

Sam Wride: 45:22

Usually I did a whole month last year, but this year I've got a huge room by five nights, huge room being 120 for five times. So I'll try and do. I mean, that's like 25 sold, which is great, being months away. Um, then I got a whole week in darwin, which would be hundreds of seats too. Um, it's really scaling and it's good because yeah, you got it, you've got a question over there.

Burso: 45:47

Okay, sorry, hand up. This isn't't a YouTube video, so you have to make noise.

Sam Wride: 45:50

Anthony Rico, the lawyer who defended P Diddy, the man who represented Osama bin Laden In what I don't know Court. Yeah, I was going to say they didn't have a trial for him, they just helicoptered in.

Burso: 46:04

Yeah, as in like when they kicked his oar in and shot him in the face 15 times, or at which point did you?

Sam Wride: 46:08

defend him, maybe prior to that, I'm assuming-. Is he Judge, dredd? Yeah, you have been judged. I'm assuming he would have had some allegations prior to getting his face shot off. You mean he would have had to defend himself prior to that right, as in.

Burso: 46:21

Ben Lardon Defend himself for what?

Sam Wride: 46:22

I don't fucking know, mr Lardon. All I know is that PDD.

Burso: 46:26

Adding absolutely zero value to this conversation. Thanks very much, Sam.

Sam Wride: 46:31

Yeah, I'll link anyway. Why don't you go?

Burso: 46:32

on Google and go tell me a random stat that I can tell that's entertaining and see what happens. I'm not here this is your podcast, brother, I know, and it was going really well until you popped up about that.

Sam Wride: 46:41

I'll just sit here, but yeah, so it's just big shows, which is good.

Burso: 46:51

It's scary, but it's so five days in a row. If you sell them out, does the Melbourne Comedy Festival then go? Hey, you're probably due a bigger thing, or?

Sam Wride: 46:55

is that you? That's how it works. You scale up each time, but is that you?

Burso: 46:58

scaling it up, yep.

Sam Wride: 46:59

Okay, yeah, kind of, but then it's with the venue as well. It's kind of a complicated system that is very there's a lot of politics involved, which is okay.

Burso: 47:10

That's fine. Politics involved, which is okay, that's fine. I exist kind of outside of that a little bit, the different leagues where you'd be like Jared's, currently C grade. I kind of fall into the content creator market.

Sam Wride: 47:22

So there's a bunch of comedians that don't have an audience and the comedy festival thinks that they're going to be a big act. Well, that will kind of hedge their bets. We'll promote these 50 people. We know probably three of them might make it big. We kind of hedge their bets. We'll go, we'll promote these 50 people. We know probably three of them might make it big. We'll lock them into a deal and then, because you pay the comedy festival as well per ticket, so I kind of fall under the content creator thing, which is they leave us alone because we bring our own audience.

Burso: 47:43

Oh yeah.

Sam Wride: 47:43

So there's a handful of us in various different genres, which is I'm an independent artist, essentially so I am. I do everything myself.

Sam Wride: 47:53

I'm my own boss and booking. So the venue just wants to know, no-transcript, the bar and all the rest of it. Yep, so you know, 100 odd people, everyone's going to buy a beer. Surely that's their take? Yep, some people buy five, some buy zero. Kind of all works itself out and that's how it works. And you just kind of want to scale up each time, sort of pre-theatre, so I'm in like what's called a pre-theatre thing. So then once you go into the theatre, if, if, then you start working.

Burso: 48:25

That's not manifesting when?

Sam Wride: 48:29

Yeah maybe We'll see. I mean, I'm pretty happy where I am, yeah, and I'm just kind of grateful at the moment. Before I'm already in the made dream part, I guess I'm making dream right now. Yeah, I'm not too greedy. I've already surpassed anything I could ever dream of with this. Honestly, people are coming to watch, yeah yeah that's sick.

Sam Wride: 48:50

When you're in that bottom thousand with the open mic, you never think this is happening. And I've started with lots of people that it hasn't happened for them and they are very good acts. I was gonna say are they funny, though? Uh, some of them are amazing. Yeah it just. They just didn't, it just didn't happen for them. How many of them do you reckon you know? How many of them do I know?

Sam Wride: 49:09

Yeah 60, 70, 75, 150 maybe. Yeah, there'd be Australia-wide. I reckon there'd be 2,000, 3,000 people vying for a spot. I was three years ago and then… I guess that's like any job, really like coming out of uni and there's only certain jobs really like yeah any like coming out of uni and there's only 100 available yeah there's no path in my business, you got to make it yourself.

Sam Wride: 49:31

There's no industry, there's no ombudsman, there's no. Yeah, it's just kind of make it yourself. So I'm already pretty grateful if that makes sense. Um, and I, I make what I want. I don't really kind of make too much, I think, what anyone else would like Like most days I wake up and I go, this is a good idea, I'll shoot it today, yeah, and I go boom, boom, boom, and then I let it go and then I just go like oh, wow, like people are watching and that seems to be working way better than when I first started and chasing down that sort of stuff, I think once you in a philosophical, gay way it's like I've always said, gateway for a second I was like, oh no, he said gay.

Sam Wride: 50:12

He said gay, yeah, if you, if you, if you listen to your creativity and follow it, I think more people watch and respect it, because they have to, because it's genuine, like it's authentic by genuine, but it has to be okay. Yeah, um, chris, probably wouldn't. But yeah, I'm in a, I'm in a good spot, you know, and I've pushed through. Now. I mean, if the next two months work, I'll probably be in a spot where financially it looks fucking okay, like just okay, like we're just out of the weeds, yeah, um, and that's nice. But a lot of things can happen between now and then. If I get sick the week of the melbourne comedy festival and I can't do any of those shows Sam's on, we don't make that 15, 20,000 bucks or whatever happens.

Burso: 50:51

I'll be your backup, I'll jump on, or you get Sam to go up with his thing on and we just, like you, just do a phone. You can talk, because you'll be in bed.

Sam Wride: 50:58

Yeah, and Sam will just do the yeah the. And then they're gay Did anyone hear? Blood drunk. I can see it happening. Those autistic Jews, osama Bin Laden's lawyer, it's easy.

Burso: 51:14

I'm just sitting here with my medical glasses on just going tell me a joke. I want to tell the boys.

Sam Wride: 51:18

And that's a tough thing. Working for yourself is tough, you would think this, because like you can work as much or as little as you want, like you can really wake up and do nothing yeah, but eventually like the bills are going to like, like you're not going to make any money Sounds like being a politician, yeah. But someone's still going to pay you. I need to wake up and choose. You need to make a lot of good decisions.

Burso: 51:40

Yeah.

Sam Wride: 51:41

And you need to be very healthy of mind. You need to be very disciplined of execution. I very healthy of mind. You need to be very disciplined of execution. Ie I'm going to actually do this work today. Yeah, you guys have got to be like.

Burso: 51:52

You're both like I mean you have different niches or whatever but you both got to be very self-motivated because it'd be easy if you just not do anything for a week.

Sam Wride: 51:59

It's easy to burn out too, so it's easy to be like I got to be doing more. I got to be doing more and then, like your partner or your friends are like kind of haven't seen you in like six weeks, what are you doing?

Burso: 52:08

I was like fuck, I don't even know, I don't even know, you don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sam Wride: 52:18

You need to be good with your money too, right, Because running your own business I have nothing coming in next fortnight.

Burso: 52:23

Unless I do something, I have no super, I have no this, I have no that.

Sam Wride: 52:26

All my camera's down, my mic's down Like great, yeah, I've got seven bank accounts and I'm like this is just in case of this. So this is just a case of that, and these are all the things that are coming. These are the things Yep, yeah, 100%, yeah, cash, yeah, um, and I think that will always scale. So, like the best, the main thing I'm doing moving forward is just trying to be calmer in my thoughts I don't know how you feel about that, but running your own no I.

Sam Wride: 52:53

I agree, because it's it's all very like oh, I should be doing this, I should be doing marketing, or do I need to do more? Like? For me it's? Do I need to be doing more tournaments? Do I need to fight more? Do I need more content? Do I need to teach more? Or do I need, do I need, to pay for marketing? In fact, because you know my fitness program needs to get out there, yeah, and they're like shit.

Sam Wride: 53:08

Should I do a reel with these people? Or do I then need to change my reels to this? Or do I need to go to this other aspect? Because you know, the algorithm changes. No one wants to see someone bash on with music. People want to see people talking with a title in the top of it and then the views turn into money. I heard this quote the other day that business is like trying to run a marathon if you've never run a marathon and you're not even fit. But you've got to get fit whilst running the marathon and you don't know when it ends or if it even ever does.

Burso: 53:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah, sounds like the berserker course. Yeah, sub one for berserker, sub one for berserker, sub one for berserker. Yeah, so of a berserk who?

Sam Wride: 53:47

blood dried, so it is very chaotic. Is there anything? But I couldn't. The other option is bad for me. Like I'm one of those people and I'm sure you might feel the same way like I've been on my own long enough now that if I had a job it would really poison my entire life and I'd probably get depressed and die.

Sam Wride: 54:02

I never want to work for anyone ever again. If I ever want to work for anyone ever again, if I ever have to call someone boss or tell them I'm going to be somewhere, I will fucking end myself.

Burso: 54:07

I think I'd die. I'd suck stuff up my nine mil Like it would be the worst, it would be the absolute worst and put the disclaimer back on. Okay, great, no, like. Honestly, a lot of people feel that way too. Like I, just I'm rewired now yeah. So I yeah, no good, keep going, I'm putting the disclaimer on now.

Sam Wride: 54:28

Just go in and always get into it. Well, I'd like to put it as we might die. Listen back on this after the fact. Play this at the state funeral. Yeah, at the state funeral. I love it. At least I'm not throwing a piece of rope over a tree, don't worry about it.

Burso: 54:43

Are you doing anything like Matt Rife or anything where you're going to make your own sort of 30-minute special?

Sam Wride: 54:49

Yeah, probably in two years' time. The whole plan, with that, is going to New Zealand at the end of the year to try to open that market up. I've got a few followers over there and people message me all the time when are you coming to Auckland? Brah, yeah.

Burso: 55:01

You need to link up with that. Jimmy. Do that talks about pies all the time. Yeah, yeah, I like that guy.

Sam Wride: 55:05

He's a good value. Then get ready to go to Edinburgh that's on the bucket list to then go to America, as in not Adelaide, you mean Edinburgh Free, yeah yeah, not Rathbys Edinburgh.

Burso: 55:17

I was like, no, you made it, but I'm out.

Sam Wride: 55:19

But yeah, the big goal for me is to go to America. I think that market is huge. To be able to do a huge American tour would be amazing, yeah, and then have all of the material sorted to then in a couple of years. It's about $40,000 to shoot a comedy special. Yeah, $40,000?. Yeah, yeah.

Burso: 55:41

Fucking hell. Is that because you're paying for the actual people to do it, as opposed to or?

Sam Wride: 55:46

you mean buying your own gear and all that sort of stuff. I mean, you would definitely hire someone, a cinematographer. So not Sam and me with like just some glasses?

Burso: 55:52

Absolutely not. There goes our plan, Sam Well, they got like a.

Sam Wride: 55:56

When I went over to America I went to a comedy place and they had this studio where they would just do everything. Like you rent out a studio for like hours, but I'm assuming you'd need a crew. We need to be good. I mean, there's just so much good stuff out there now Like you need to stand out above the rest, right? I think content especially is you're competing with whatever's after your thumb swipe or before it.

Sam Wride: 56:16

So I hear people talk about this all the time. They're like my content didn't do that well and it's like I posted it at the wrong time of day. I'm like yeah, yeah or it's shit. I don't think the time of day really matters at all, like it definitely doesn't matter at all. It's like think about. I always like go away from like mindless scrolling and go into like mindful scrolling and be like what are you actually looking at? You're looking at like some of the most amazing sort of creators in the world. The thumb before you was this thing shot with like a media team, and then you were the next thing yeah, and it's like blurry yeah, samsung like social media is like the greatest metric um mediocrity.

Sam Wride: 56:49

How do you say that word?

Burso: 56:50

metric. So trying to fire for sam for his buddy apple phone rubbish yeah, meritocracy yes, because it's like I don't even know what that means.

Sam Wride: 56:57

It's on merit, it's merit-based. That's why you wouldn't know what it means it's like people want to watch something they do, people don't, they don't. That's. That's just what happened so sometimes I make a video and I go, no, I watched it. I go maybe it was shit, yeah. And a year later I look at it and I go, oh yeah, it was shit.

Burso: 57:09

I get offended sometimes when I watch it. I'm like why didn't I do it as good as the other ones? I'm like like his math stuff at the moment that's probably doing all right, though, that one's killing me, you mentioned the other day.

Sam Wride: 57:24

You're like you've got this many thousand followers, Do I? Yeah, no, and I'm trying to get better with that because it's not about the outcome.

Burso: 57:30

I should probably stop telling you then.

Sam Wride: 57:32

And the outcome doesn't matter too, like it doesn't matter too much. I mean, obviously you need to take your analytics away and look at it, but that shouldn't happen and you don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Burso: 57:47

Just follow the thing you want to make, I think, is I think looking at the analytics of it versus having an emotional attachment to it's probably the best option.

Sam Wride: 57:55

Small businesses do this all the time and I coach some people in content creating through King's Trust. Do you know who they are? Yep, so I started working for them, and once every three months. But they're like get our new entrepreneurs in and stuff, and I'm just like just make 100 things and don't look back and then after that like think about posting times and stuff. Yeah, just get a little bit better each time.

Burso: 58:19

Yeah, probably wrap it up. You guys got to go Hit the road, hit the road.

Sam Wride: 58:24

Yeah, I'm hitting the road, yeah.

Burso: 58:27

I'm fucking out. I don't care what you guys are doing, I'm leaving.

Sam Wride: 58:32

I want to hear some final words from Jared. I want to know what.

Burso: 58:34

What do you want to know?

Sam Wride: 58:35

I want to know if you had to give a spiel to people that want to do two things be a comedian do your line of work.

Burso: 58:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And or contact creating His first one would be don't do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What would be for those two separate things?

Sam Wride: 58:49

two separate answers. Yep Contact creating and then comedying Comedying.

Burso: 58:53

Being a funny cunt, just comedy. What is your?

Sam Wride: 59:01

Dude, I love anyone who's done stand-up comedy and I like, and you're just in it and everyone's talking about the worst gig they had this week and you're like, do you think that's bad? Like no one talks about crushing no one's. Like oh, in the last week I was full audience and they love me.

Burso: 59:13

Yeah, these guys are laughing you're like boy dude.

Sam Wride: 59:16

Retards on the front row you're like yes, like, and they were like, one was screaming and he was drooling everywhere.

Burso: 59:20

And then, like, you're like, this is so good and um, I've had that where they look at you and they're like this dickhead, lasted anything, I'm just, I'm literally just doing it to like when I was at your one there was a guy before me like I can't remember what he he was, like something about vaping, and he's like, oh, I'm going to vape and pillage. I lost it.

Sam Wride: 59:34

I was like that was genius and he's like that was easy. And he just looked at me and if you want to start doing comedy, you look there's no, there's no practice, there's no. You can stand in your room if you want and you can write some shit down and all the rest of it. That all helps, but you just got to do, do, do, do and find those places that have the, the list in the four minutes and really enjoy that process, because you can't skip it. And the people some people do, and it really catches them in the ass. They never. They hit a a ceiling because they have like a little following or whatever in some other market and they start doing comedy. But there's nothing really like getting used to being in front of people and dying yeah.

Sam Wride: 1:00:18

Content creating and then content creating. It's like I just find something. I think the Venn diagram between something that you know a lot about and then just getting better at presenting it is infinite. Yeah, like if you were an expert on Pokemon. I think with enough knowledge you could make a successful channel based around Pokemon knowledge. Yeah, have your niche and stick to it. Oh, totally, but make sure the niche is genuine. Yeah, don't make something because you think you do, because you'll run out of steam.

Burso: 1:00:50

We're at Jared's show said. It's the same show that I've seen and it's not been remotely the same each time, like the one I saw in geelong just went like. The first two jokes was like oh, you've heard these before or a version of it went off the rails yeah.

Sam Wride: 1:00:58

And then it was just that lady was like what's your favorite pokemon? Yeah, evie. And I said yeah, fuck, yeah, stone Vaporeon.

Burso: 1:01:06

Yeah, like the whole thing just went from like the Great Australian Stepson to just Pokemon. It was just nuts. And then I was like where did this come from? This is nothing like the last show.

Sam Wride: 1:01:15

And, like from a technical standpoint, it's like you can't get that comfortable to go off script to then get back on without those years in the swamp, yeah, yeah. Because that's what makes comedy shows really nice is when you can't see the writing to the rest of it. You know, because we write stuff and it's all in a filing cabinet in our brain. But the real art form is making it look like you're just talking. Yeah, Like that's the secret.

Sam Wride: 1:01:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense and that's what separates good comedy to bad, like to okay comedy. Have you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense and that's what separates good comedy to bad, like to okay comedy. Content creator. Yeah, define what you like and then just do that, because it's going to take a long time to do so. You might as well have something that you know a lot to do, because then by the time you're actually good at it, you won't have run out of stuff to say.

Burso: 1:01:59

Yeah, true.

Sam Wride: 1:02:00

And then you can just start from the start again. What's the best heckle you've had?

Burso: 1:02:03

Best heckle. Yeah, because it'd be. Look, I remember playing footy where dudes used to like give you shit and some of them you'd be like you know what? That was a good dig A few years ago.

Sam Wride: 1:02:12

I had a few fucking pounds on me.

Burso: 1:02:13

Just stop, Sam. What are you doing? What are you doing, oh?

Sam Wride: 1:02:17

sorry, sorry. A few years ago I had fucking he because I was balls deep in the antidepressants and in the anti-dose and I had this joke with him like I used to be a fat kid growing up and this fucking dude just goes you're still a. And like he was just the largest man I'd ever seen too.

Burso: 1:02:39

And he was just like yeah.

Sam Wride: 1:02:40

And then I said, fuck, that's good, that's what I said. I said fuck, that's the pot calling the kettle fat, just boom quick as and fuck, that's what did I say to him.

Burso: 1:02:46

I said fuck, that's the pop calling the kettle fat just boom quick as, and I was like I didn't even think about it.

Sam Wride: 1:02:49

It just shot out and I was like maybe I'm a comedian, but besides that heckle fuck, I don't mind it.

Burso: 1:02:53

And then he just gave you the fat salute and you just ate it.

Sam Wride: 1:02:56

Ate a chicken soup do you know what the worst keckles aren? You'll just play the numbers game where you just keep going and they'll pull themselves into a hole. So you kind of just keep asking them questions and they'll be like, oh, yeah, and then they're fucked. Yeah, I am a dickhead, you're right. Um, the worst person is someone who's trying to help. So you're like, hey, uh, so I know a lot of cops and they're like my son's a cop and you're like you're really ruining the rhythm and you're not really shut the fuck up and um, there's only so many times you can be like well he should come and arrest you and you run out of stuff because they're like you know, and then they try and help.

Sam Wride: 1:03:27

And the second people is people that are disabled.

Burso: 1:03:30

Oh.

Sam Wride: 1:03:30

Because they're like right and it's like there's only so much you can do with it.

Burso: 1:03:34

Yeah, yeah.

Sam Wride: 1:03:35

Before, like the rhythm gets off.

Burso: 1:03:37

Yeah, yeah.

Sam Wride: 1:03:51

Can't help but end on something you enjoy and do it often, and eventually you'll get good at it. And then you look back at the stuff you used to do and think that's shit. And then that'll keep happening as you go along further. And even if you think the stuff you're doing now is good, in five years you might cringe at it. And that's growth bang.

Burso: 1:04:05

And we're out.